@razibkhan Though I suppose the two bleed into each other often (but not always! eg. in this conversation I'm the pedant and I don't think either of us even have any motivation to be self-serving)
@razibkhan 虽然我想这两个人经常互相流血(但并非总是如此!例如,在这次谈话中,我是个书呆子,我认为我们中的任何一个人都没有任何自私自利的动机)