@Noahpinion This thread made me realize in part why SF discourse confuses me. I feel like "San Francisco" (in the official defn of the term) is not even a useful object to talk about. "Downtown SF" is. "The bay area" is. But eg. west side SF is more like the south bay than like downtown.
@Noahpinion 这个帖子让我部分意识到为什么 SF 话语让我感到困惑。我觉得“旧金山”（在该术语的官方定义中）甚至不是一个有用的对象。 “旧金山市中心”是。 “湾区”是。但是例如。旧金山西侧更像是南湾而不是市中心。