@Nutmeg031992 @LongDesertTrain I think "cultural opposition" is stronger than just being 'no' on a poll, but as I mentioned in the other reply, this isn't really important to the question of ventilation.
Also, I don't even see them as alternatives necessairly. Both have merits and also opposition.
@肉豆蔻031992@LongDesertTrain我认为“文化反对”比民意调查中的“反对”更强烈，但正如我在另一个回答中提到的，这对通风问题并不重要。
而且，我甚至不认为它们是必要的替代品。两者都有优点，也有缺点。
@Nutmeg031992 @LongDesertTrain Anyway, that was sort of a side issue, my main point was that there are interest groups who are resistant to either actually doing the work to upgrade ventilation or philosophically/politically opposed to any sorts of initiatives or requirements.
@肉豆蔻031992@LongDesertTrain无论如何，这是一个次要问题，我的主要观点是，有一些利益集团，他们要么拒绝实际进行通风升级工作，要么在哲学上/政治上反对任何形式的倡议或要求。
@Nutmeg031992 @LongDesertTrain Nobody wants them permanently, I agree, but I'm also reasonably certain that wasn't what he meant by "cultural opposition". That's a reference to anti mask politics and protest, which is a noisy but very small minority.
@肉豆蔻031992@LongDesertTrain我同意，没有人想要它们永久存在，但我也相当确定，这不是他所说的“文化对立”的意思。这是指反面具政治和抗议，这是一个吵闹但非常小的少数群体。
@happyhexer @AbraarKaran I know they exist, I even have a couple that I ordered for myself (though ended up using KF94). I'm just saying I've never seen anyone use one "out in the wild". Not even once.
@happyhever@AbraarKaran我知道它们的存在，我甚至为自己订购了一对（尽管最终使用了KF94）。我只是说我从没见过有人在野外用过。一次也没有。
@AbraarKaran @happyhexer I've NEVER seen a mask brace in actual use. Until and unless those are widely distributed and there is effective public eduction, probably best to not even bring that up.
KN95/N95/KF94, sure. Those are out there, maybe get people to switch. Even just surgical is better.
@AbraarKaran@happyhexer我从未见过面具支架在实际使用中。除非这些信息被广泛传播，并有有效的公共教育，否则最好不要提出来。
KN95/N95/KF94，当然。这些都在外面，也许能让人们改变。即使只是外科手术也更好。
@xTwinCityz @thornlessrose6 @myrabatchelder @DrLeanaWen That's ALL causes put together, not heart disease. Heart disease is about 1800 per day, just as I said, compared to 2600 per day for covid currently (7 day average).
@xTwinCityz@thornlessrose6@myrabatcheld@DrLeanaWen这是所有原因的总和，而不是心脏病。正如我所说，心脏病的发病率约为每天1800例，而目前新冠肺炎的发病率为每天2600例（平均7天）。
@perdidostschool @DrLeanaWen @BrianCCastrucci @LizSzabo @PostOpinions "The economy" isn't being hurt by the (nonexistent) "restrictions" either. It's being hurt by workers getting sick and customers avoiding a rampant virus since they don't want to get sick (or can't afford to).
@perdidostschool@DrLeanaWen@BrianCCastrucci@lizzzabo@postOperations“经济”也没有受到（不存在的）“限制”的伤害。员工生病和顾客因为不想生病（或负担不起）而避免肆虐的病毒，这对它造成了伤害。
@NateSilver538 @MarkHarrisNYC @JamesSurowiecki Pre-Omicron there was already a (second) delta surge building. If you want to see a baseline of people not responding by being more cautious during a surge you really need to go back to summer, or perhaps a window in October between surges.
@NateSilver538@MarkHarrisNYC@JamesSurowiecki Pre-Omicron已经有一座（第二座）三角洲浪涌大楼。如果你想看到人们在涨潮期间不采取更谨慎的应对措施，那么你真的需要回到夏天，或者在10月份涨潮之间留出一个窗口。
@LongDesertTrain @mskathleenquinn Jails have been shown to be covid amplifiers. There is a lot of turnover so new people to infect and it always spills out into the wider community. So yes there is disregard for inmates but it's a wider concern too (or not a concern, in reality).
@LongDesertTrain@MsKathleenquin监狱被证明是新冠病毒扩音器。有大量的人员流动，所以会有新的人感染，而且它总是蔓延到更广泛的社区。因此，是的，对囚犯的漠视是存在的，但这也是一个更广泛的问题（或者说，实际上不是一个问题）。
@emilygraymd_mph @DropletsAreFake @JHowardBrainMD There was a perception by some at the time that the pandemic was just ending, and vaccinating adults was enough to protect kids. Israel was cited as an example. It was dumb, but it was there.
@emilygraymd_mph@DropletsAreFake@JHowardBrainMD当时有些人认为大流行刚刚结束，成年人接种疫苗就足以保护儿童。以以色列为例。它很蠢，但它就在那里。
@annerichardsDRC @michaelmina_lab @eMedCertified I think the code is just a serial number. You need an app to do anything useful with it, and most of the tests don't provide an app. A few of them do e.g. BD Veritor.
@annerichardsDRC@michaelmina_lab@eMedCertified我认为代码只是一个序列号。你需要一个应用程序来做任何有用的事情，而大多数测试都不提供应用程序。其中有一些是这样的，例如BD Veritor。
@annerichardsDRC @michaelmina_lab @eMedCertified There is no self reporting option in general (some tests have an app that may allegedly self-report but I'm not sure it actually does). But there is a code on box (and also I think on the binax test itself). I can see it in the picture.
@annerichardsDRC@michaelmina_lab@eMedCertified通常没有自我报告选项（一些测试有一个应用程序，据称可能会自我报告，但我不确定它是否真的有）。但是box上有一个代码（我认为binax测试本身也是如此）。我能在照片上看到。
@LongDesertTrain Consider downstream concerns too. Money was budgeted for schools and not businesses. If acknowledging that schools "need" IAQ then why not commercial buildings, workplaces, etc.? So politics opposed to latter may also seek to deflect former.
LongDesertTrain也在考虑下游问题。预算中的资金用于学校，而不是企业。如果承认学校“需要”室内空气质量，那么为什么不考虑商业建筑、工作场所等。？因此，反对后者的政治也可能试图转移前者的注意力。
@LongDesertTrain The opposition isn't only cost related. As you say, money was there for schools. Opposition is taking on additional responsibilities even if voluntary and particularly if mandated, and probably to even acknowledging the need vs. "kids don't get covid, don't spread covid"
@反对党不仅与成本有关。正如你所说，钱是用来买学校的。反对党正在承担额外的责任，即使是自愿的，尤其是在强制的情况下，甚至可能会承认这一需要，而不是“孩子们不会感染新冠病毒，不会传播新冠病毒”
@LongDesertTrain You speak of "cultural opposition" to masks but for the public as a whole, this is a vocal minority, often very small. It does rise to a stronger level of opposition in certain states and subpopulations, but likewise opposition to government spending and regulations.
@你说的是对面具的“文化反对”，但对整个公众来说，这是一个发声的少数群体，通常非常小。在某些州和亚人口中，它的确引起了更强烈的反对，但同样反对政府支出和监管。