@WeleleTumblr @vonlooten @andrarchy In other words koinos is still theory and we will have to wait for my predictions to play out. Maybe koinos could team up with @gofractally because we share some common ideas and history

@Welletumblr@vonlooten@andrarchy换句话说，科伊诺斯仍然是理论，我们将不得不等待我的预测结果。也许科伊诺斯可以与@gofractally合作，因为我们有一些共同的想法和历史

@koinosthegoat @hggnooo @joticajulian @vonlooten @andrarchy It’s not about inequality but reducing overhead for sake of performance, reducing costs for all, scale, and ultimately ease of use.

@koinosthegoat@hgnooo@joticajulian@vonlooten@andrarchy这不是关于不平等，而是为了性能、降低所有人的成本、规模和最终的易用性而减少开销。

@andrarchy @joticajulian @_JamesMart @vonlooten It’s only a problem if you measure the overhead of redistribution of resource rights from those earning them by holding to those using them. It could be done more efficiently with direct fees that are burned.

@andrarchy@joticajulian@U JamesMart@vonlooten如果你通过持有使用资源的人来衡量资源权利从获得者那里重新分配的开销，那么这只是一个问题。直接收费可以更有效地实现这一目标。

@RubenCress Hive is a fork of steem which I happen to believe is a legitimate dpos response to an attack. It was renamed but nevertheless is a continuation and it shows my account as one of the first created.

@RubenCress Hive是steem的一个分支，我碰巧认为它是DPO对攻击的合法响应。它被重命名，但仍然是一个延续，它显示了我的帐户作为第一个创建。

@IgnoreRonPaul @PhilipChilds_ @VitalikButerin @gofractally @EdenOnEOS Funding is the expression of economic power and its allocation is a large part of governance.

@IgnoreRonPaul@PhilipChilds@VitalikButerin@gofractally@EdenOnEOS资金是经济实力的表达，其分配是治理的很大一部分。

@WeleleTumblr @vonlooten @andrarchy Given exchanges have 0, I can only assume that the network is only used by a small group of people who all have more tokens than they need. Things change at scale.

@Welletumblr@vonlooten@andrarchy假设交换为0，我只能假设网络仅由一小部分人使用，这些人都拥有比他们需要的更多的令牌。事情按比例变化。

@vonlooten @andrarchy Main problem with koinos is Pareto distribution of tokens does not match the Pareto distribution of resource use which means most people have to pay someone to delegate and capital costs are too high for “free” mana. This is exasperated by exchanges.

@vonlooten@andrarchy与koinos的主要问题是代币的帕累托分布与资源使用的帕累特分布不匹配，这意味着大多数人必须花钱委托他人，并且资本成本对于“免费”法力来说太高。这一点被交易所激怒了。

RT: "Thinking is difficult, that's why most people judge." - Carl Jung

RT：“思考是困难的，这就是大多数人评判的原因。”-卡尔·荣

@TheDEROchan @gofractally If we cannot figure out how to work together without creating incumbent powers that end up ruling without accountability, then nothing will work. That said, I think we need both good governance solutions and good tools for independence from everyone else.

@TheDEROchan@gofractally如果我们不能想出如何在不创造最终在没有问责制的情况下执政的现任权力的情况下合作，那么什么都不会起作用。也就是说，我认为我们既需要良好的治理解决方案，也需要良好的工具，使我们能够独立于其他人。

@PhilipChilds_ @VitalikButerin @gofractally @EdenOnEOS I'm not advocating for #EOS governed by ENF. Eden on EOS is an attempt to decentralize the governance of EOS. In any event, @gofractally is actually using decentralized governance.

@PhilipChilds_u@VitalikButerin@gofractally@EdenOnEOS我不主张由ENF管理的EOS。EOS上的Eden是一种尝试，旨在分散EOS的治理。无论如何，@gofractally实际上是在使用分散式治理。

@PhilipChilds_ @VitalikButerin Have you checked out @gofractally and @EdenOnEOS where we solve true democracy, political parties, incumbent advantage, and Sybil attacks and rewarding people for subjective contributions? The wisdom of the crowds is tapped. Traditional voting is broken by ballot selection rules.

@PhilipChilds_u@VitalikButerin你有没有检查过gofractally和EdenOnEOS，在那里我们解决了真正的民主、政党、现任优势和Sybil攻击，并奖励人们的主观贡献？群众的智慧被挖掘出来了。传统投票被选票选择规则打破。

This is why @gofractally uses true meritocracy with the most democratic, Sybil resistant, government-id-free, system to allocate power to those who reliably contribute the most value to the public good as judged by a random jury of peers each week. https://twitter.com/VitalikBut...

这就是为什么@gofractally使用真正的精英管理和最民主、最抵制Sybil、最不需要政府id的系统，将权力分配给那些可靠地为公共利益做出最大价值贡献的人，正如每周由同行随机组成的陪审团所判断的那样。https://twitter.com/VitalikBut...

@IgnoreRonPaul @gofractally @VitalikButerin Too much overhead and requires the cooperation of a 3rd party rather than just being built into the chain. I think it is a much-needed patch for the current way #EOS is working, but we can do better.

@IgnoreRonPaul@gofractally@VitalikButerin的开销太大，需要第三方的合作，而不仅仅是构建在链中。我认为这是目前EOS工作方式急需的补丁，但我们可以做得更好。

@kaktaka123 @Blondin5555 @gofractally @VitalikButerin Funny, Vitalik doesn't think I'm a scammer. How do you square that?

@kaktaka123@Blondin5555@gofractally@VitalikButerin有趣的是，Vitalik并不认为我是个骗子。你是怎么摆平的？

Blockchain fees make friendly user interfaces challenging. This proposal compares #Eth, #EOS, and #Koinos and intros @gofractally's new approach. Hopefully, all blockchains can benefit from an improved experience. What do you think? @VitalikButerin
https://hive.blog/fractally/@d...

区块链费用使友好的用户界面具有挑战性。该提案比较了#Eth、#EOS和#Koinos以及intros@gofractally的新方法。希望所有区块链都能从改进的体验中受益。你觉得呢@维塔利克巴特林
https://hive.blog/fractally/@d、 。。。

Math-nerds may like my most recent analysis of how to mathematically derive group values from individual values as it relates to @gofractally. https://hive.blog/fractally/@d...

数学书呆子可能喜欢我最近的分析，即如何从与@gofractally相关的单个值中数学推导出组值。https://hive.blog/fractally/@d、 。。。

@cmadh_ @nsjames_ Well if all certifications are equal then they would be fungible. A token, in my view implies transferability otherwise it is just a signed statement

@如果所有认证都是平等的，那么它们是可以替代的。在我看来，令牌意味着可转移性，否则它只是一个签名语句

@nsjames_ That would be a non-transferable token not a NFT. 😭

@nsjames_这将是不可转让的令牌，而不是NFT。😭

@scottcarat @GergelyOrosz Begging regulators for permission to do things is not the same thing as liking regulation.

@斯科特·卡拉特（scottcarat@GergelyOrosz）乞求监管机构允许做事与喜欢监管是两回事。

@IgnoreRonPaul @Melpearce @estebs @ernst19947442 @BigBeardSamurai That’s fantastic. Where can I learn more about it?

@IgnoreRonPaul@Melpearce@estebs@ernst19947442@bigbardsamurai太棒了。我在哪里可以了解更多？