@jolly1766 @redbaybound @jimhubbell6177 @RadioFreeTom Population effects are always downstream of individual effects (i.e. population is just a collection of individuals). Claiming otherwise is an appeal to magical thinking.
@jolly1766@redbaybound@jimhubbell6177@RadioFreeTom群体效应总是在个体效应的下游（即群体只是个体的集合）。相反的说法是对魔法思维的一种诉求。