@WCreekerE @RadioFreeTom That paper also includes a survey of other studies, showing similarly low protection against infection and symptomatic disease. (Protection against severe disease is higher.) https://t.co/tprM92Uo4T
@WCreekerE@RadioFreeTom该论文还包括对其他研究的调查，显示对感染和症状性疾病的保护程度同样较低。（对严重疾病的防护更高。）https://t.co/tprM92Uo4T
@WCreekerE @RadioFreeTom Here's one. 37% right after getting the second dose, and certainly wanes thereafter.
https://www.medrxiv.org/conten... https://t.co/ujuKzcJh1y
@WCreekerE@RadioFreeTom这里有一个。在第二次注射后立即达到37%，之后肯定会减弱。
https://www.medrxiv.org/conten... https://t.co/ujuKzcJh1y
@WCreekerE @RadioFreeTom There are numerous studies of vaccine efficacy against infection or symptomatic disease that show it to be very low. It's not the vaccine that is reducing those rates you see, especially not without a booster.
@WCreekerE@RadioFreeTom有许多关于疫苗对感染或症状性疾病的有效性的研究表明，疫苗的有效性非常低。并不是疫苗降低了这些发病率，尤其是在没有助推器的情况下。
@WCreekerE @RadioFreeTom That's biased by more severe cases (more likely in unvaxed) being counted more, and also probably by demographic factors (older people more careful also more vaxed, richer people more protected, also more vaxed, etc.)
@WCreekerE@RadioFreeTom的偏见在于，更严重的病例（更有可能在未征税的情况下）被计算得更多，也可能受到人口因素的影响（老年人更谨慎，也更挑剔，富人更受保护，也更挑剔，等等）
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Like I said, this is true already. People can see that people aren't wearing masks and if they care, they know that's not safe. No one is being fooled, or even significantly inconvenienced.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan正如我所说，这已经是事实了。人们可以看到人们没有戴口罩，如果他们在意，他们知道这不安全。没有人被愚弄，甚至没有人受到明显的不便。
@RadioFreeTom It would be nice if you got a shot and were no longer part of the transmission process causing enormous surges that crush hospitals. It was true to a larger extent several months ago.
Biologically that just isn't true any more.
@RadioFreeTom如果你注射了疫苗，并且不再参与传播过程，那就太好了，这会造成巨大的冲击，摧毁医院。几个月前，这在很大程度上是正确的。
从生物学角度来说，这已经不再是事实。
@RadioFreeTom This just isn't true. Some vaxed are going to hospitals and dying but more to the point vaxed are very, very likely the source of THE MAJORITY of transmission. Slowing spread among and by vaxed helps overburdened hospitals.
@这不是真的。一些VAX患者将被送往医院并死亡，但更重要的是，VAX很可能是大多数传播的源头。减缓VAX之间和通过VAX传播的速度有助于医院负担过重。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Getting many people wearing masks for personal health is public health too. Not any different from educating people about better nutrition or anything else, with the add issue for contagions of health care burden during surges.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan让许多人戴口罩是为了个人健康也是公共健康。与教育人们更好的营养或其他任何东西没有什么不同，还有一个问题是在激增期间医疗负担的传染。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan (Masking also protects the person wearing it, if the air isn't perfect clean. So the ONE other person in this situation wearing a mask is at lower risk too.)
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan（如果空气不完全干净，口罩也可以保护戴口罩的人。因此，在这种情况下，戴口罩的另一个人的风险也较低。）
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Yes masking works because it keeps the air clean.
If there is a room with three people, you being one, and ONE of the other people is wearing a mask, you are at less risk than if neither are.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan Yes掩蔽效果很好，因为它能保持空气清洁。
如果一个房间里有三个人，而你是其中一个人，而另一个人戴着口罩，那么你的风险比两个人都不戴口罩的风险要小。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan I just don't think it makes any difference.
Opposition to mask mandate will not change because there is no mandate during the non-eating portions of a restaurant.
Concert halls often require them anyway, in practice.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan我只是觉得这没什么区别。
对口罩授权的反对不会改变，因为在餐厅的非用餐部分没有授权。
在实践中，音乐厅通常需要它们。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Nothing I wrote has anything to do with droplets (which I never believed by the way, you can go back to my timeline from 2020 and see me talking about wearing N95s and getting shit for it).
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan我写的任何东西都与飞沫无关（顺便说一句，我从来不相信飞沫，你可以回到我2020年的时间线，看到我谈论着穿N95，并为此大吃一惊）。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan People have eyes, they can see people eating and drinking without a mask and figure out that there is more risk.
"Restaurants are perfectly safe because people waiting to be seated are wearing masks" said no one ever. This is just not a real issue.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan人有眼睛，他们可以看到人们在没有口罩的情况下进食和饮水，并发现风险更大。
“餐馆绝对安全，因为等待就座的人都戴着口罩，”从来没有人说。这不是一个真正的问题。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan If you're going to be absolutist and say mask rules don't make sense unless you superglue the mask on your face when you walk in the door and can't take it off, I can't stop you.
But in reality that is far less logical and workable.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan如果你想成为一个绝对主义者，说面具规则毫无意义，除非你进门时把面具粘在脸上，而且无法脱掉，我不能阻止你。
但在现实中，这远没有那么合乎逻辑和可行。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Also a good reason to improve ventilation, BTW. By all means do so. But they're not substitutes necessarily. Layered and redundant safety measures is usually preferable.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan也是改善通风的一个很好的理由，顺便说一句，一定要这样做。但它们不一定是替代品。分层和冗余的安全措施通常更可取。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Sorry, but no. You're looking at this in a binary safe vs. unsafe manner. That is false.
Airports are MORE safe because people wear masks in them most of the time. Passing out from dehydration wouldn't be helpful. No mask rule because people drink water also not helpful.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan抱歉，但不是。你是在以二进制安全与不安全的方式看待这个问题。这是错误的。
机场更安全，因为人们大部分时间都戴着口罩。脱水后昏倒也没用。没有口罩规则，因为人们喝水也没有帮助。
@caro_vina @August_West_GD @RadioFreeTom @mehdirhasan Because you're indoors and not eating or drinking. That's just really simple and obvious.
If you're in an airport and the person next to you is eating or drinking, do you take your mask off? No, because it doesn't matter what other people in the room are doing.
@caro_vina@August_West_GD@RadioFreeTom@mehdirhasan因为你在室内，不吃不喝。这非常简单和明显。
如果你在机场，而你旁边的人正在吃饭或喝酒，你会摘下口罩吗？不，因为房间里的其他人在做什么无关紧要。