@ReceiptsIn @0xfbifemboy @_davemacdonald @nicksdjohnson @balajis Oh I have no disagreements there.
I view analysis of Neom in the same light as I view, say, analysis of centralized eth-killer chains. No way I'm anywhere close to accepting the whole vision, but should be open to checking if specific pieces in isolation have actionable wisdom.

@在@0xfbifemboy@u davemacdonald@nicksdjohnson@balajis哦，我在那里没有分歧。
我对近地天体的分析与我对集中式eth杀手链的分析是一致的。我不可能接近接受整个愿景，但我应该乐于检查单独的特定部分是否具有可操作的智慧。

@0xfbifemboy @_davemacdonald @nicksdjohnson @balajis Hmm not quite. The point is that once you get into the network you can completely forget that cars and roads even exist.

@0xfbifemboy@u davemacdonald@nicksdjohnson@balajis嗯，不太清楚。关键是，一旦你进入网络，你就可以完全忘记汽车和道路的存在。

@Zh_myth @_davemacdonald @nicksdjohnson @balajis Spread all over is the point. Makes it possible to walk/run/bike from anywhere to anywhere in the city almost entirely through the park system.

@Zh_神话@davemacdonald@nicksdjohnson@balajis遍布各地是关键。几乎完全可以通过公园系统从城市的任何地方步行/跑步/骑自行车到任何地方。

@_davemacdonald @nicksdjohnson @balajis Yeah I agree this would be superior.
I mean, *really* I want a city with a connected system of parks going everywhere through it, such that no point in the city is more than 300m away from the park network.

@_davemacdonald@nicksdjohnson@balajis是的，我同意这会更好。
我的意思是，*真的，*我想要一个到处都有公园连接系统的城市，这样城市中没有一个点距离公园网络超过300米。

@nicksdjohnson @balajis Ok I just forced my brain to try to make a case for the 1D model and the best I can come up with is heat dissipation.
Urban heat islands are a big deal, and SA has lots of heat naturally, I can see how making the city a thin strip with mirrors on both sides might improve things. https://t.co/MOBh7sY5Vv

@nicksdjohnson@balajis好的，我只是强迫我的大脑尝试为1D模型做一个案例，我能想到的最好的方法就是散热。
城市热岛是一个大问题，SA自然有很多热量，我可以看到如何使城市成为一个两边都有镜子的薄带可能会改善情况。https://t.co/MOBh7sY5Vv

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@zengjiajun_eth @danfinlay Once ERC-4337 gets adopted more, native AA can hopefully move to become ERC-4337 compatible over time.
Ethereum itself may need to add native AA over time:
https://notes.ethereum.org/@vb...
So hopefully we can move toward convergence.

@曾家俊eth@danfinlay一旦ERC-4337被更多采用，本地AA有望随着时间推移变得与ERC-4397兼容。
以太坊本身可能需要随着时间的推移添加本机AA：
https://notes.ethereum.org/@vb。。。
所以希望我们能朝着趋同的方向前进。

@kate_sills Blockchains + better public goods funding are actually a pretty good hybrid:
* Corp-lib ideas: coins cannot be seized, freedom-to-transact
* The coin creates collective economic power independent of nation states
* Public goods funding and protocol governance adds dig-dem ideas

@kate_sills区块链+更好的公共品融资实际上是一个很好的混合体：
*公司理念：硬币不可扣押，交易自由
*硬币创造了独立于民族国家的集体经济力量
*公共品资金和协议治理增加了dem理念

@kate_sills Corp-lib does do a really good job of embracing that. But its costly signals only reflect private goods and not public goods, which is the problem.

@kate_sills Corp lib确实很好地接受了这一点。但其代价高昂的信号只反映了私人物品，而不是公共物品，这就是问题所在。

@kate_sills .. now dig-dem does have space for that (QV, QF, SALSA), but there's also the strain that emphasizes having more and better public deliberation, which is good in many cases, but I think the colder "costly signaling without having to explain yourself" is an important counterweight

@kate_sills..现在dig dem确实有这样的空间（QV、QF、SALSA），但也有强调有更多更好的公共审议的压力，这在许多情况下是好的，但我认为更冷的“不需要解释自己的昂贵信号”是一个重要的平衡

@kate_sills Another side point is that I actually really like the coldness of arms-length transactions in many cases. Quadratic voting for zoning rights seems much better than having to publicly explain the case for an exemption...

@kate_sills的另一个观点是，在很多情况下，我真的很喜欢交易的冷漠。分区权的二次投票似乎比公开解释豁免的理由要好得多。。。

@kate_sills Ok looking over this so far, I feel like I like synth-tech *morality* but I dislike synth-tech *institution design*.

@kate_sills Ok到目前为止，我觉得我喜欢synth tech*道德*但我不喜欢SynthTech*制度设计*。

@kate_sills Dislike about dig-dem:
* Believes in being independent from nation states in theory, but doesn't have a good program for achieving this in practice
* Too easily turns into a justification of the status quo (X is illegal? Then clearly X must have serious negative externalities!)

@kate_sills不喜欢dig dem：
*在理论上相信独立于民族国家，但在实践中没有实现这一点的好方案
*太容易变成现状的理由（X是非法的？那么很明显X肯定有严重的负外部性！）

@kate_sills Like about dig-dem:
* The only one that appreciates both credible neutrality and public goods
* The only one that understands the importance of achieving legitimacy before implementing many kinds of solutions

@kate_sills喜欢dig dem：
*唯一一个同时欣赏可信的中立性和公共利益的人
*唯一一个在实施多种解决方案之前理解实现合法性的重要性的人

@kate_sills Another important "like about synth-tech" that I missed is the really important utilitarian/effective-altruist moral idea that moral obligations can be global and do NOT just stem out of relationships.
Helping people you'll never meet is often the *most* virtuous form of help.

@kate_sills另一个我错过的重要的“关于synth tech”是一个非常重要的功利主义/有效利他主义道德观念，即道德义务可以是全球性的，而不仅仅源于关系。
帮助你永远不会遇到的人往往是最有益的帮助方式。

@kate_sills Dislike about corp-lib:
* No good answer to economics of plutocracy leading to naturally occurring centralization
* Sometimes focuses too much on serving the already-well-off

@kate_sills不喜欢corp lib：
*对于导致自然发生的中央集权的财阀统治经济学，没有很好的答案
*有时过于注重为已经富裕的人服务

@kate_sills Like about corp-lib:
* Explicit pro-freedom bias, "your aesthetic disapproval is not a legitimate negative externality"
* Possibly the only one with the energy and vitality needed to *actually* create coordination locuses that aren't just appendages of existing nation states

@kate_对corp lib很感兴趣：
*明确的支持自由的偏见，“你的审美否定不是合法的负外部性”
*可能是唯一一个拥有所需能量和活力的国家，能够*实际上*创造出不仅仅是现有民族国家附属物的协调机制

@kate_sills Dislike about synth-tech:
* Tendency to create social systems that completely ignore the fact that the "operator" is also part of the social system. This creates big trust problems.
* Lack of appreciation of credible neutrality (eg. algorithmic social media)

@kate_sills不喜欢synth tech：
*倾向于创造完全忽视“经营者”也是社会系统一部分这一事实的社会系统。这造成了巨大的信任问题。
*缺乏对可信中立性的评价（例如算法社交媒体）

@kate_sills Like about synth-tech:
* Generates insights that are psychologically unintuitive (because we're not good at scale, exponential functions, etc) but really valuable
* Values simplicity of standardization and mathematical cleanness (eg. "abolish DST" feels synth-tech)

@kate_sills喜欢synth tech：
*产生的见解在心理上不具启发性（因为我们不擅长尺度、指数函数等），但确实很有价值
*重视标准化的简单性和数学上的简洁性（例如“废除DST”技术）

@kate_sills Very unformed thoughts but something like....

@kate_有很多未成形的想法，但有点像。。。。