@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Read the links. There is a lot documented besides the obviously frivolous take on subway tiles. Here's another one, also with references.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@Macrolel阅读链接。除了明显轻浮的地铁瓷砖外，还有很多记录。这是另一个，也有参考文献。
https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Also not true about nothing happening (see links to other resources as well)
https://www.architecturaldiges...

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel关于什么都没发生也不是真的（请参阅其他资源的链接）
https://www.architecturaldiges...

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter It's not a flu for one thing. Flu pandemics seem to have a few waves and mostly disappear (perhaps resurfacing only decades later) due to antigenic drift or immunity or being outcompeted by other flus or who knows what. So far this hasn't done that. Maybe it will.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@Macrolel这不是流感。流感大流行似乎有几波，由于抗原性漂移或免疫力，或被其他流感或谁知道是什么超越，大多会消失（可能在几十年后重新出现）。到目前为止，这还没有做到。也许会的。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Lots of things happened in the past to reduce risk of persistent infectious diseases. Quarantines (individual and mass), shunning and marginalizing of infected, etc. You obviously don't expect exact same adaptations in a different time with different economies and technologies.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel过去发生了很多事情，以减少持续感染性疾病的风险。隔离（个人和群体）、避免和边缘化感染者等。很明显，你不会期望在不同的时间、不同的经济和技术下完全相同的适应。

@mymysharona43 @FrankAr55210849 @nytimes Every large business or set of businesses owned by an individual, whether criminal or not, has very complex tax returns. I'm not willing to take the leap to claim every business is substantially criminal. Business is just far more financially complex than getting a salary.

@mymysharona43@FrankAr55210849@nytimes每个大企业或个人所有的一组企业，无论是否犯罪，都有非常复杂的纳税申报单。我不愿意冒昧地宣称每一项业务都是实质性的犯罪。生意在财务上比拿薪水复杂得多。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Past societal experiences are certainly relevant. Do you think people in the past weren't resistant to change? That is human nature and timeless. But change they did, and so we may as well. Some already. Norm of nearly 100% in-person office work likely gone forever.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel过去的社会经验当然是相关的。你认为过去的人不抵制改变吗？这是人的本性，是永恒的。但他们确实改变了，所以我们也可以。已经有一些了。几乎百分之百亲自做办公室工作的标准可能永远消失了。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter I could certainly come up with a list (e.g. ventilation standards, masks in essential services, not working while sick, testing used in sensible and effective ways, continued well-funded biomedical research, etc, etc.) but that's not the point here.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel我当然可以列出一个清单（例如通风标准、基本服务中的口罩、生病时不工作、以合理有效的方式使用测试、继续进行资金充足的生物医学研究等），但这不是重点。

@macroliter "A rigorous definition" is fine, but there are multiple plausible choices. Agree 1/3 with noticeable PASC seems quite unlikely given lived experience.

@“严格定义”很好，但有多种看似合理的选择。考虑到生活经验，同意1/3明显的PASC似乎不太可能。

@mymysharona43 @FrankAr55210849 @nytimes Probably had as much to do with his tax return as that blank binder his press secretary held up as his health care plan. Still, I'm quite certain his tax returns are very large and complex.

@mymysharona43@FrankAr55210849@nytimes可能与他的纳税申报单有关，就像他的新闻秘书拿的空白活页夹与他的医疗保健计划一样。尽管如此，我很确定他的纳税申报单是非常大和复杂的。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter That depends entirely on the type of work and workplace of course, and many vulnerable people are retired or disabled, but in both cases still often need to use transit and other essential services. Generalizations are not really helpful.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel这完全取决于工作类型和工作场所，当然，许多弱势群体已经退休或致残，但在这两种情况下，仍然经常需要使用交通和其他基本服务。概括并没有真正的帮助。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Every current health, safety, and risk reducing regulation altered the way people used to live. Drunk driving used to be common and socially accepted, even expected, now it isn't. Likewise unsafe sex pre-HIV and so forth. Resistance to change is natural, but futile.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel当前的每一项健康、安全和风险降低法规都改变了人们过去的生活方式。酒后驾车过去很常见，甚至被社会所接受，但现在不是了。同样，艾滋病病毒感染前的不安全性行为等等。抵制变革是自然的，但也是徒劳的。

@macroliter @todh0564 @jburnmurdoch There is potentially a huge gap between long covid people might care about that is annoying and QoL-reducing, and "substantially limits one's daily activities".
I don't know if it is anything like 1/3 or 1/2 though, may not be.

@Macrolel@todh0564@jburnmurdoch在长冠状病毒感染者可能关心的令人讨厌的问题和生活质量下降之间存在潜在的巨大差距，并且“严重限制了一个人的日常活动”。
我不知道是1/3还是1/2，也许不是。

@FrankAr55210849 @nytimes I don't know if what Trump claims is true (often isn't) but tax returns and audits of many interconnected business entities he owns are certain to be a lot more complex (thousands of pages at least) than a public servant getting a salary.

@FrankAr55210849@nytimes我不知道特朗普所说的是不是真的（通常不是真的），但他所拥有的许多相互关联的商业实体的纳税申报表和审计肯定比一个公务员领工资要复杂得多（至少数千页）。

@pokerboymi @Clarabellepip @CheebaJones @nytimes It also has a paywall. Expecting people to read that to participate in a social media discussion is misguided.

@Poker Boymi@Clarabellepip@CheebaJones@nytimes它也有一个付费墙。期望人们读到参与社交媒体讨论是错误的。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Believe what you like, but your thought process is clearly distorted by the framing of "restrictions". Health, safety, and risk-reducing norms, practices and regulations are pervasive. "Restrictions" is a concept out of emergency response, not the long view.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel相信你喜欢什么，但你的思维过程显然被“限制”的框架扭曲了。健康、安全和降低风险的规范、做法和规定无处不在。“限制”是一个应急响应的概念，而不是长远的观点。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Which, as I said, doesn't apply to vulnerable people who can and often do avoid those other places. "Home" is not relevant despite high numbers, but often cited as a form of misinformation, because transmission has to take place between homes, always one of the other places.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@Macrolel，正如我所说，这不适用于那些能够而且经常避开其他地方的弱势群体。尽管数字很高，但“家”并不相关，但经常被引用为一种错误信息，因为传播必须发生在家庭之间，总是发生在其他地方。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter There's nothing hopeful about it. The adaptations will come if they're needed. I hope they're not.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@Macrolel这没什么希望。如果需要的话，将进行调整。我希望他们没有。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter There are numerous known transmission events planes and busses, fewer on trains I think. Lots of places simply don't trace well enough to know. Data also muddied by times and places where community transmission was low or vaccines effective against transmission.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel有许多已知的传输事件飞机和公共汽车，我认为火车上的传输事件更少。许多地方根本没有足够的线索来了解。数据也因社区传播率低或疫苗有效预防传播的时间和地点而变得混乱。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter We'll see. If the trajectory of impact continues downward, all good, nothing to worry about.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@Macrolel我们拭目以待。如果冲击轨迹继续向下，一切都好，没什么可担心的。

@antizeroalt @MikeBromley15 @thumbhatguy @NKinNewEng @macroliter Some, depending on the time window. Lower IFR but more transmissible isn't great. 2022 is not a great year so far. Past few months, yes, likely diminished, though long covid is poorly understood.

@antizeroalt@MikeBromley15@thumbhatguy@NKinNewEng@macrolel一些，取决于时间窗口。较低的IFR但更具传染性并不好。到目前为止，2022年不是一个伟大的一年。是的，过去几个月很可能减少了，尽管人们对长冠状病毒知之甚少。