@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD Sweden had significant restrictions longer than Florida I think. But there's a lot of granularity in which restrictions, how long, how enforced, etc. Lockdown vs not lockdown framing seems more inflammatory than useful.
@我认为，thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD Sweden受到的限制比佛罗里达州更长。但是有很多限制的粒度，多长时间，如何执行，等等。锁定和不锁定框架似乎更具煽动性，而不是有用的。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD Sweden actually closed stuff, banned travel, banned any gatherings >50 people (i.e. every single concert, convention, many weddings, etc.).
Sweden didn't lock down but places like the US did is ridiculous.
I don't think the word is really useful if there aren't actual locks.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD Sweden实际上关闭了东西，禁止旅行，禁止任何聚会>；50人（即每一场音乐会、会议、许多婚礼等）。
瑞典没有封锁，但像美国这样的地方是荒谬的。
我认为如果没有实际的锁，这个词就没有什么用处。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD I'm not sold on it being a useful word at all for asking people to stay home. Perhaps one might make the case that it is deliberately divisive from the "anti-lockdowners" too.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD我不认为这是一个有用的词，要求人们呆在家里。也许有人会认为它也是故意与“反锁定者”分裂的。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD I mean as far as I know the origin of the word is things like prisons and schools, where the doors are literally locked. What was done in China pretty clearly approximates that and places like Italy is closer.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD我的意思是，据我所知，这个词的起源是监狱和学校之类的东西，那里的门实际上是锁着的。在中国所做的很明显接近于这一点，而像意大利这样的地方更接近这一点。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD "Asked to stay home" = "lockdown"
Seems questionable to me.
Perhaps the word should just be retired. It's clearly problematic. As you say, you have people using it to refer to mask mandates or bars closing an hour early.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD“要求呆在家里”=“封锁”
对我来说似乎有问题。
也许这个词应该被删除。这显然是有问题的。正如你所说，有人用它来指的是提前一小时关闭的面具授权或酒吧。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD There's a gray area here but claiming "we were locked down!" is cry-babish given the experience in, say, Italy, where people were allowed to go out once per week, police were enforcing it, and human interaction was reduced to clanking pots and singing from balconies.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD这里有一个灰色区域，但声称“我们被锁定了！”比如说，在意大利，人们每周被允许外出一次，警察强制执行，人们之间的互动减少到叮当作响的锅和在阳台上唱歌，这就是哭闹的孩子气。
@thereal_truther @JeromeAdamsMD This is really questionable. "Stay-at-home" was both not enforced essentially at all in practice and had a precise legal definition that didn't actually require you to stay at home.
@thereal_truther@JeromeAdamsMD这真的值得怀疑。“呆在家里”在实践中根本没有强制执行，并且有一个精确的法律定义，实际上并不要求你呆在家里。
@wherewereweb4 @ymenken @JeromeAdamsMD @Mikeska Where was that. Every place I've seen, "essential business" included hardware stores and exempt from closure, not just Home Depot. Many smaller businesses closed on their own though.
@wherewereweb4@ymenken@JeromeAdamsMD@Mikeska那是哪里。我见过的每一个地方，“基本业务”都包括五金店和免于关闭的商店，而不仅仅是家得宝。然而，许多较小的企业自己关闭了。
@rjar1980 @JeromeAdamsMD @annbauerwriter Both can absolutely be true. There are ways of "going overboard" that are not "lockdown".
Lockdown = you can not leave (your home, neighborhood, etc.).
Many places did this. The US did not. Even in places in the US with "stay at home" orders on paper, there was no enforcement.
@rjar1980@JeromeAdamsMD@annbauerwriter这两个词都是绝对正确的。有些“过火”的方式不是“封锁”。
封锁=你不能离开（你的家、邻居等）。
许多地方都这样做了。美国没有。即使在美国有书面“呆在家里”命令的地方，也没有强制执行。
@MelpomeneMel @mikealbeland @yaneerbaryam @BodoBrueckner I wasn't sure from the perspective, but that certainly seemed possible. I'd be trying at least. Also looking for the best place to shelter if clear can't escape.
@MelpomeneMel@mikealbeland@yaneerbaryam@BodoBrueckner从这个角度来看我不确定，但这似乎是可能的。至少我会努力的。如果无法逃脱，也要寻找最好的庇护所。
@VanessaCariddi @Rocket57 @SeeLuluRun @DisguiseDevilin @yaneerbaryam @farid__jalali The experts "upon whose advice and direction we have relied" didn't see it coming.
@VanessaCariddi@Rocket57@Seellurun@伪装的恶魔@yaneerbaryam@farid\uu jalali专家们“我们依赖他们的建议和方向”并没有看到它的到来。
@69L46 @AshishKJha46 Even under the (crappy) current CDC recommendations, at least 1/3 of the country lives in a place where everyone should be masking indoors. Think about that.
@69L46@AshishKJha46即使在（糟糕的）CDC当前的建议下，这个国家至少有三分之一的人生活在每个人都应该在室内遮蔽的地方。想想看。
@FromChicagoland @katebrady15 @Bob_Wachter @AshishKJha46 @ashishkjha Of course not. Even in 2020, with no vaccine or immunity from recovery, some people had mild or asymptomatic infections. It runs a spectrum.
@来自芝加哥的katebrady15 Bob_Wachter AshishKJha46 ashishkjha当然不是。即使在2020年，由于没有疫苗或恢复免疫力，一些人也有轻微或无症状的感染。它运行频谱。
@AshishKJha46 "100k a day" is extreme misinformation due to low reporting of cases and you know it.
300-400 deaths per day (130k/year) is not "low".
Stop spinning, it reflects poorly.
@AshishKJha46“每天10万”是极端错误的信息，因为病例报告率低，你知道的。
每天300-400人（13000人/年）的死亡率并不“低”。
停止旋转，它反映的很差。
@perdidostschool @Bob_Wachter @AshishKJha46 @ashishkjha Also, how is 300-400 deaths per day (where the decline stalled and plateau maintained for the past several months) "low"?
That's 130k/year, far more than any seasonal flu and still one of the leading causes of death.
@perdidostschool@Bob_Wachter@AshishKJha46@ashishkjha还有，每天300-400人的死亡人数（在过去几个月里，死亡人数停止下降，并保持平稳）“低”吗？
这是13万/年，远远超过任何季节性流感，仍然是主要的死亡原因之一。
@perdidostschool @Bob_Wachter @AshishKJha46 @ashishkjha Hospitalizations in the US have stayed low?
Nope. Tripled since the April low, ICU doubled. Both a steady rise that shows no sign of slowing and may even be accelerating.
@perdidostschool@Bob_Wachter@AshishKJha46@ashishkjha在美国的住院率一直很低？
不。自4月低点以来增加了两倍，重症监护病房增加了一倍。两者都是稳步上升，没有减缓的迹象，甚至可能正在加速。
@Bouje99 @RobHHill @conorsen @NateSilver538 Spring breakers are drawn by the beach but spend every night at bars and parties. None of this is as clear as twitter experts want to make it out.
@Bouje99@RobHHill@conorsen@NateSilver538 Spring breakers由海滩绘制，但每晚都会在酒吧和派对上度过。这一切都不如推特专家想说的那么清楚。
@Kelly05484118 @spinnerscircle @manuriv93285316 @BennuSpaceRock @NateSilver538 The age adjustment might be valid for Florida (though it is complicated due to part year residents and a variety of factors including low % nursing home residents in Florida),
BUT:
California is BOTH older than Texas AND has lower per capita deaths, so that doesnt work at all
@Kelly05484118@spinnerscircle@manuriv93285316@BennuSpaceRock@NateSilver538年龄调整可能对佛罗里达州有效（尽管由于部分学年居民和各种因素，包括佛罗里达州疗养院居民的百分比较低，这很复杂），
但是：
加利福尼亚州比德克萨斯州更老，人均死亡率也更低，所以这根本不起作用
@MauiBoyMacro @biancoresearch Even when rates are low the curve is still usually upward sloping meaning that longer borrowing hurts the budget. There is borrowing all across the curve but the average (long term) is usually about 5 years, when it moves there is a budgetary impact.
@MauiBoyMacro@biancoresearch即使利率较低，曲线通常仍向上倾斜，这意味着较长时间的借款会损害预算。整个曲线上都有借款，但平均（长期）通常约为5年，当它移动时，会产生预算影响。