用户 Vitalik Non-giver of Ether(@ VitalikButerin) 的最新消息

RT: We're excited to announce that Nomic Labs, the team behind @HardhatHQ, is becoming the Nomic Foundation: a non-profit Ethereum public goods organization backed by @Ethereum Foundation, @VitalikButerin, @Coinbase, @a16z, @Consensys, and others.
https://medium.com/nomic-labs-...
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RT:我们很高兴地宣布,No.Labs,HardhatHQ背后的团队,正在成为诺基亚基金会:一个非营利性的公共产品组织,由@ Ethunm基金会,@ VITIALKBUTILN,@ Coinbase,@ A16Z,@ CythyS等。
https://medium.com/nomic-labs-...
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发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

@Crypto_BenBen @peter_szilagyi @el33th4xor Deleted and replaced, thanks for the catch!

@Crypto_BenBen@peter_szilagyi@el33th4x或删除并替换,感谢您的关注!

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

@peter_szilagyi @el33th4xor I think to be fair, it's best to separate the discussion into:
1. Should we 10x the gas limit?
2. Should we reduce the block time to 1s while decreasing the per-block gas limit by 13x (so tx/sec stays the same)?
The second is bottlenecked by consensus, the first is not.

@peter_szilagyi@el33th4x或者我认为为了公平起见,最好将讨论分为:
1.我们应该把汽油限量提高10倍吗?
2.我们是否应该将阻塞时间减少到1s,同时将每阻塞气体限制减少13倍(因此tx/sec保持不变)?
第二个是共识的瓶颈,第一个不是。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

@epolynya "Like BitTorrent in how data is distributed but like blockchains in how consensus is secured" was exactly how I was thinking about it when I first started banging at the problem of making blockchain sharding work in 2014. Hopeful that this idea can spread further now!

@epolynya“在数据的分发方式上与BitTorrent相似,但在共识的安全性上与区块链相似”,这正是我在2014年第一次开始讨论区块链分片的问题时的想法。希望这个想法现在能进一步传播!

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

@el33th4xor Stop being dishonest.
"Consensus is not the bottleneck" refers to bandwidth.
The above tweet was about latency.
And if you actually engaged with the arguments instead of using mixed-case to insinuate the claim is ridiculous without saying why, this would be clear to you.

@EL33TH4X或停止不诚实。
“共识不是瓶颈”指的是带宽。
上面的推文是关于延迟的。
如果你真的参与到争论中,而不是用混合案例来暗示这种说法是荒谬的,而没有说明原因,你就会明白这一点。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

@koeppelmann @AssangeDAO As did I.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9503...

@koeppelmann@AssangeDAO和我一样。
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9503...

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

A quick post explaining the current choice of block times (both pre- and post-merge) and the tradeoff between speed and decentralization/safety.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ether... https://t.co/EuP9u7NCgX

一篇简短的帖子解释了当前的阻塞时间选择(合并前和合并后),以及速度和分散/安全之间的权衡。
https://old.reddit.com/r/ether... https://t.co/EuP9u7NCgX

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

16. It's fascinating how the two axes seem to imply each other:
Pure tinkering is fast and effective, but it is unprincipled, so lacks large-scale legitimacy, so can only cooperate through centralization
Theorycel thinking is slower, but well-suited for decentralization

16.这两个轴似乎相互暗示,这很有趣:
纯粹的修补是快速有效的,但它没有原则,因此缺乏大规模的合法性,因此只能通过集中进行合作
理论思维较慢,但非常适合分散化

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

17. BTW apparently the way noun declension works in this internet language is that if you respect someone being called a -cel, then the ending becomes -chad, so perhaps we should be talking about theorychads (and even wordchads)?

17.顺便说一句,在这种网络语言中,名词的变化显然是这样的:如果你尊重被称为-cel的人,那么结尾就变成了-chad,所以也许我们应该谈论理论上的hads(甚至单词chads)?

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

18. Many are inclined to dismiss this whole shape rotator and wordcel thing because it came from 4chan, and "everyone knows" 4chan is icky and hateful or whatever.
But I take it seriously. It's a new internet-native culture trying to understand the human world on its own terms.

18.许多人倾向于忽略整个形状旋转器和wordcel的东西,因为它来自4chan,“每个人都知道”4chan是讨厌的、可恨的或其他什么。
但我很认真。这是一种新的互联网本土文化,试图以自己的方式理解人类世界。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

19. Perhaps even a lowbrow but still important part of the "post-liberal Western ideology" that @palladiummag keeps talking about. Not anti-liberal, but just... weird. Which is fine, because the underlying reality that it's trying to understand is weird and only getting weirder.

19.甚至可能是@palladiummag一直在谈论的“后自由主义西方意识形态”中一个低俗但仍然很重要的部分。不是反自由主义,只是。。。奇怪的这很好,因为它试图理解的潜在现实很奇怪,而且只会变得更奇怪。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

13. But crypto isn't just team theorycel. Crypto is certainly very theorycel compared to AI (and as I argue above, that's its *advantage*), but it also does a lot of shape rotation (which is crypto's advantage compared to much more purely wordcel-driven trad institutions)

13.但加密技术不仅仅是团队理论。与人工智能相比,Crypto无疑是非常理论化的(正如我上面所说,这是它的*优势*),但它也有很多形状旋转(这是Crypto相比于更纯粹的wordcel驱动的贸易机构的优势)

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

14. So to summarize, I do think crypto is heavy on shape rotating and "crypto is theorycels who have accomplished nothing but scams" vastly undersells what crypto is situated to accomplish, but the crypto vs AI dichotomy also does point to something really important.

14.总而言之,我确实认为加密技术非常注重形状旋转,“加密技术是只会骗局的理论家”,这大大低估了加密技术要实现的目标,但加密技术与人工智能的二分法也指出了一些真正重要的东西。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

15. See also: Peter Thiel's idea that "crypto is libertarian, AI is communist"
https://www.inc.com/sonya-mann...

15.另见:Peter Thiel的观点,“加密是自由意志,人工智能是共产主义”
https://www.inc.com/sonya-mann...

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

10. To be clear, I think there are important good things that come out of taking theorycel aesthetics seriously, and people who don't suffer for it. A really big one is credible neutrality:
https://nakamoto.com/credible-...

10.说清楚一点,我认为认真对待理论美学会带来一些重要的好处,而人们不会因此而受苦。真正重要的一点是可信的中立:
https://nakamoto.com/credible-...

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

11. Theory is transparent and legible to outsiders, tinkering is opaque. Hence why crypto (the blockchains, not the applications on top of them) really has gained quite a bit of public trust, while AI has largely failed at achieving that goal.

11.理论对外人来说是透明和易读的,修补是不透明的。因此,为什么加密技术(区块链,而不是其上的应用程序)真的获得了相当多的公众信任,而人工智能在很大程度上未能实现这一目标。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

12. And why I ultimately do think liberal democracies are much more well-suited to be the center of a "world order" than autocracies. A world where the center is a centralized black box is scary.
(But democracies do need to actually follow principles to keep their legitimacy)

12.以及为什么我最终认为自由民主政体比专制政体更适合成为“世界秩序”的中心。一个以黑匣子为中心的世界是可怕的。
(但民主国家确实需要遵循原则以保持其合法性)

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

8. Meanwhile, AI is the exact opposite. It really does produce wonders, but we can't explain how it works, and there's far more unprincipled tinkering than theory.
And to be fair, the unprincipled approach does cause problems that crypto doesn't have!
https://christophm.github.io/i...

8.与此同时,人工智能正好相反。它确实产生了奇迹,但我们无法解释它是如何工作的,而且没有原则的修补远远多于理论。
公平地说,这种无原则的方法确实会带来加密所没有的问题!
https://christophm.github.io/i...

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

9. One interesting parallel is @MacaesBruno's "black box" as a metaphor for how philosophy works in China, and why AI is attractive there. Very low on theorycel aesthetics, high on "just keep shape rotating until it seems to work"
https://brunomacaes.substack.c...
https://www.politico.eu/blogs/... https://t.co/coyHqEuBTW

9.一个有趣的类比是@MacaesBruno的“黑匣子”,它隐喻了哲学在中国的运作方式,以及人工智能在中国的吸引力。非常低的理论美学,高的“只是保持形状旋转,直到它似乎工作”
https://brunomacaes.substack.c...
https://www.politico.eu/blogs/... https://t.co/coyHqEuBTW

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情

5. There's also something deeper going on. Zeroing in now on the phrase "theorycel aesthetic sensibilities".
A lot of early crypto ideology was inspired by libertarianism, eg. Bastiat, Mises, Rothbard... which cares *a lot* about theorycel aesthetic vision of equality.

5.还有更深层次的问题。现在把重点放在“理论的审美情感”上。
许多早期的加密思想都受到自由意志主义的启发,如巴斯夏、米塞斯、罗斯巴德。。。它非常关心关于平等的理论美学观点。

发表时间:2年前 作者:Vitalik Non-giver of Ether @VitalikButerin详情