@delitzer @nascentxyz So to trade ETH on R1 for XYZ on R2, the most likely move would be to move the ETH, then trade for XYZ locally on R2 (because XYZ is more obscure than ETH and has lower liquidity, so moving it would be harder)

@delitzer @nascentxyz 因此，要将 R1 上的 ETH 换成 R2 上的 XYZ，最可能的举措是移动 ETH，然后在 R2 上本地交易 XYZ（因为 XYZ 比 ETH 更晦涩，流动性更低，所以移动它会更难）

@delitzer @nascentxyz ... if you only do that for major assets, then for minor assets you can have only one liquidity pool on each chain, and bridging would happen via a sell -> move major asset -> buy pattern.

@delitzer @nascentxyz ...如果您只对主要资产这样做，那么对于次要资产，您在每条链上只能拥有一个流动资金池，并且会通过卖出进行桥接-

@delitzer @nascentxyz Also, bridges are going to rely on liquidity providers for a while (basically until ZK-SNARK utopia where we have ZK-EVM rollups that *prove* within a single slot), and to bridge from each rollup directly to each other rollup you might need N^2 liquidity pools, whereas...

@delitzer @nascentxyz 此外，桥梁将在一段时间内依赖流动性提供者（基本上直到 ZK-SNARK 乌托邦，我们在一个插槽内*证明* ZK-EVM 汇总），并从每个汇总直接桥接到每个其他汇总，您可能需要 N^2 个流动性池，而...

@delitzer @nascentxyz Bridges should be available and easy, but the bridging process would still take a couple of slots, no way around it.

@delitzer @nascentxyz 桥接器应该可用且简单，但桥接过程仍然需要几个槽，无法绕过。

@delitzer @nascentxyz Also the "just bridge" argument can be flipped: rich people can build and use automated software that splits a trade into N pieces and does a little bit on each rollup to avoid slippage (if the ETH base chain's liquidity alone is not good enough)

@delitzer @nascentxyz 也可以翻转“只是桥”的论点：富人可以构建和使用自动化软件，将交易分成 N 部分，并在每次汇总中做一点以避免滑点（如果仅 ETH 基础链的流动性是还不够好）

@delitzer @nascentxyz Bridging has a fundamental level of friction + time delay that can't be abstracted imo.

@delitzer @nascentxyz 桥接具有基本级别的摩擦时间延迟，无法在 imo 中抽象出来。

I think editing should be available, but when you edit a tweet, the portion that was edited should become highlighted. Would not interfere with typo fixes etc, but would be more likely to prevent attempts to abuse the feature. https://twitter.com/TwitterBlu...

我认为应该可以进行编辑，但是当您编辑推文时，应突出显示已编辑的部分。不会干扰错字修复等，但更有可能防止滥用该功能的尝试。 https://twitter.com/TwitterBlu...

Big thanks to @jbaylina @gubsheep for help!

非常感谢@jbaylina @gubsheep 的帮助！

I built a basic implementation of a SNARK (PLONK) compiler, prover and verifier in python:
https://github.com/ethereum/re...
Intended primarily for educational value, and for simple inputs it can exactly reproduce verification keys generated by https://zkrepl.dev/

我在 python 中构建了一个 SNARK (PLONK) 编译器、证明者和验证者的基本实现：
https://github.com/ethereum/re...
主要用于教育价值，对于简单的输入，它可以准确地重现 https://zkrepl.dev/ 生成的验证密钥

@logiccryptofam @lompattikammm Berlin is the one city in the world that I would absolutely describe as "deeply vegan"

@logiccryptofam @lompattikammm 柏林是世界上唯一一个我绝对会形容为“纯素食主义者”的城市

@lompattikammm lol I don't think Berlin controls the world order these days

@lompattikammm 哈哈，我不认为柏林现在控制着世界秩序

@RMBLRX (to be clear I don't disagree with this perspective! The "both" option was meant exactly for it)

@RMBLRX（很明显，我不同意这种观点！“两者”选项正是为此而生的）

Is the current global order deeply capitalist or deeply statist?

当前的全球秩序是深度资本主义还是高度国家主义？

@aeyakovenko @terrelljstarr I definitely want the right to leave your country to be always available and much more practical than today. I'm just saying US/CA are better short-term candidates for realizing this right (at least in the short term)

@aeyakovenko @terrelljstarr 我绝对希望离开您的国家的权利始终可用并且比今天更实用。我只是说美国/加拿大是实现这一权利的更好的短期候选人（至少在短期内）

@terrelljstarr CC @MichelleRempel

@terrelljstarr CC @MichelleRempel

@terrelljstarr It feels more appropriate for USA and Canada to take the lead on accepting them imo. They'll be more welcome there and it would lead to fewer problems.

@terrelljstarr 感觉更适合美国和加拿大带头接受他们。他们在那里会更受欢迎，这会导致更少的问题。

@Noahpinion @drvolts Also a much more interesting moral message - that sanctimonious "we can't lose even one life" mentality can in the long run lead to much more suffering.

@Noahpinion @drvolts 还有一个更有趣的道德信息——从长远来看，道貌岸然的“我们不能失去一个生命”的心态会导致更多的痛苦。

@Crypto_McKenna @delitzer @nascentxyz At this point liquidity is only a problem for millionaires imo. Slippage for trading normal-person amounts of major assets is tiny, a copy with 1% the liquidity would easily still be useful.

@Crypto_McKenna @delitzer @nascentxyz 在这一点上，流动性只是 imo 百万富翁的问题。普通人交易主要资产的滑点很小，1% 流动性的副本很容易仍然有用。

@delitzer @nascentxyz I have a hard time believing this argument.
Uniswap's main value proposition is that you can just go and get a trade done in 30 seconds without thinking about it. A uniswap chain or even rollup makes no sense in that context. A copy of uniswap on every rollup does.

@delitzer @nascentxyz 我很难相信这个论点。
Uniswap 的主要价值主张是您可以在 30 秒内完成交易而无需考虑。在这种情况下，uniswap 链甚至汇总是没有意义的。每个汇总上都有一份 uniswap 的副本。

@pillheadddd @zengjiajun_eth @0xngmi No you get an SBT.

@pillheadddd @zengjiajun_eth @0xngmi 不，你得到一个 SBT。