RT: Mainnet-Shadow-Fork-4 looks perfect! All clients went through the transition without a hitch. Only erigon missing (unrelated sync issues, we'll know in a bit if its synced to head as expected)
We finalized and just keep chugging!
#TestingTheMerge
转发：Mainnet-Shadow-Fork-4看起来很完美！所有客户都顺利完成了过渡。只有erigon丢失（不相关的同步问题，我们会知道它是否按预期同步到head）
我们最终敲定了，然后继续前进！
#测试出现
@dschenkelman Like, sometimes people send me hitler coins to my public .eth address, and I don't have a way to stop this, but it doesn't really hurt me because etherscan doesn't show them unless you intentionally scroll all the way down the really long list of spam tokens. SBTs are similar.
@有时候人们会把希特勒的硬币寄给我的公众。eth地址，我没有办法阻止它，但它并没有真正伤害我，因为以太扫描不会显示它们，除非你故意沿着一长串垃圾邮件标记向下滚动。SBT是类似的。
@dschenkelman I think the answer to this one is that an interface or algorithm looking at SBTs should not give them weight automatically, rather only if they have some reason to trust the issuer.
@dschenkelman我认为这个问题的答案是，查看SBT的接口或算法不应该自动赋予它们权重，而应该只有在它们有理由信任发行者的情况下。
@glenweyl @niran @pujaohlhaver Yeah, agree that if you add a term for encouraging people to have tokens in general then the two become equivalent.
@glenweyl@niran@pujaohlhaver是的，同意如果你添加一个术语来鼓励人们通常拥有代币，那么这两个词就相当了。
@niran @pujaohlhaver @glenweyl I think my view on this is definitely that penalizing people for having SBTs is risky. Better to reward people for having different SBTs than the others they are collaborating with.
Also alternative techniques like pairwise matching.
@niran@pujaohlhaver@glenweyl我认为我的观点是，惩罚患有SBT的人是有风险的。更好地奖励拥有不同SBT的人，而不是与他们合作的其他人。
另外还有其他技术，比如成对匹配。
@TBSocialist @avsa Yeah I agree, and in general most people are more inclined to favor freedom to engage in activities that they personally can relate to. This obviously intersects with wealth, but also with a lot of non-vertical cultural factors.
@TBSocialist@avsa是的，我同意，一般来说，大多数人更倾向于自由地从事他们个人可以参与的活动。这显然与财富有关，但也与许多非垂直文化因素有关。
@TBSocialist @avsa Yep, makes sense! Aligns with what I've seen from many rightists. Anti-leftism becoming their primary motivator and libertarianism and rightist strongman rule both becoming accepted means to that end is a common pattern.
@TBSocialist@avsa是的，有道理！与我从许多右派那里看到的一致。反左派成为他们的主要动力，自由意志主义和右翼强人统治都成为实现这一目标的公认手段，这是一种常见模式。
@Kdenkss So far visits for events only, South Africa, Zambia and Kenya.
Have any recommendations?
@迄今为止，Kdenkss只访问南非、赞比亚和肯尼亚的活动。
有什么建议吗？
@Kdenkss Fair! I do think that my own nomadding has led to much more positives than negatives, but there's definitely ways of getting into a trap where you're not making progress in life (and this can happen staying in one ppace too)
@Kdenkss公平！我确实认为，我自己的游牧生活带来了更多的积极因素，而不是消极因素，但肯定有一些方法会让你陷入生活中没有进步的陷阱（这种情况也可能发生在某个阶段）
@MinakoOikawa I have read 道德经 a bunch and a bit of 庄子, but the choice to include that particular quote was from @glenweyl and @pujaohlhaver 😊
@MinakoOikawa我读过道德经 一堆和一点庄子, 但选择加入这一特定的引语来自@glenweyl和@pujaohlhaver😊
@Kdenkss I judge people who judge "rootlessness" 😊
@Kdenkss我评判评判“无根”的人😊
@devonzuegel But they are taking very recent active decisions on things like the car-free zone, no?
Or is the argument that actually EU and USA are doing those things at similar rates, just that EU has a structural head start?
@devonzuegel但他们最近在无车区等问题上做出了积极的决定，不是吗？
还是说欧盟和美国实际上以相似的速度做这些事情，只是欧盟在结构上领先？
@avsa @TBSocialist > small government proponents who are also monarchists
I think it's things of this type that seem inconsistent but actually are consistent, just a different (maybe wrong) perspective.
Agree that geopolitics examples are a huge gold mine for really serious inconsistency!
@avsa@TBSA>；同时也是君主主义者的小政府支持者
我认为这类事情看起来不一致，但实际上是一致的，只是一种不同的（可能是错误的）视角。
同意地缘政治的例子是一个巨大的金矿，为真正严重的不一致！
@Leo_Glisic @avsa @TBSocialist Eg. freedom to travel is also a really important meta-freedom that frequently rescues people from infringement of other freedoms.
@Leo_Glisic@avsa@tbg.旅行自由也是一种非常重要的元自由，它经常能帮助人们免受其他自由的侵犯。
@Leo_Glisic @avsa @TBSocialist All important and with complicated relationships to each other!
@Leo_Glisic@avsa@tba都很重要，彼此之间的关系也很复杂！
@Leo_Glisic @avsa @TBSocialist Random little example: years ago I went to a rock climbing gym in China and then in California. Roughly equal levels of danger. The level of safety bureaucracy I had to go through for the one in California was 10x higher (yes, 10x higher than China).
@Leo_Glisic@avsa@tb就是一个小例子：几年前，我去了中国的一家攀岩馆，然后去了加利福尼亚。危险程度大致相同。在加利福尼亚州，我必须经历的安全官僚水平是中国的10倍（是的，比中国高10倍）。
@Leo_Glisic @ANNEXZD @avsa @TBSocialist Indeed. Though it does perform decently well on the economic side.
@Leo_Glisic@ANNEXZD@avsa@tb确实如此。尽管它在经济方面表现不错。
@Leo_Glisic @avsa @TBSocialist I would put building things into economic rather than personal freedoms.
An example on the personal side might be freedom to make safety/convenience tradeoffs; in personal experience I see no correlation between that and liberal-democraticness.
@Leo_Glisic@avsa@tbi我会把建筑的东西放在经济上，而不是个人自由上。
个人方面的一个例子可能是安全/便利权衡的自由；从我个人的经验来看，这与自由民主没有任何关系。
@Leo_Glisic @avsa @TBSocialist One important reason why it's likely true in the 21st century is that political vs economic vs personal activity is increasingly difficult to cleanly separate.
@Leo_Glisic@avsa@tb社会党人在21世纪可能会这样做的一个重要原因是，政治、经济和个人活动越来越难以清晰地分开。