@itsLIRAN I *use* IPFS to store my blog. It has serious UX issues (took ~1h for my last update to propagate). Sticking the blog on-chain would have been way easier.
For blogs, that's unfortunately too expensive, but for short text records the logic applies.

@itsLIRAN我*使用*IPFS来存储我的博客。它有严重的用户体验问题（我的上一次更新传播了约1小时）。把博客链接起来会容易得多。
不幸的是，对于博客来说，这太贵了，但对于短文本记录来说，这种逻辑是适用的。

@itsLIRAN Yeah this is the ideology that I am saying sounds beautiful and sensible in theory, but is false in practice. In reality, blockchains have to shard to accommodate cheap txs anyway, and at that point there is other stuff that you "may as well" just stick on them and that's fine.

@itsLIRAN是的，这是我所说的意识形态，在理论上听起来很美，很明智，但在实践中是错误的。事实上，区块链无论如何都必须切分以容纳便宜的TX，在这一点上，你“也可以”坚持使用其他东西，这很好。

@TrustlessState @pujaohlhaver @Sandeepdesto @cdixon Ultimately I don't think this is an either-or; I think the optimal technical solution includes both a chain and off-chain data and ZKPs over both, and whether you call the result an SBT or a VC is just a matter of which tribe you want to virtue-signal to.

@TrustlessState@pujaohlhaver@Sandepedesto@cdixon最终我不认为这是非此即彼；我认为，最佳的技术解决方案包括链和链外数据以及两者之上的ZKP，而结果是SBT还是VC，则取决于你想向哪个部落发出信号。

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@我个人认为星巴克把他们的装饰品出售是很酷的。大多数其他协同工作空间都不这样做。

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@Kdenkss I actually really agree with this. Snowy dark winters are terrible for my mood, and I only started noticing it once I started spending winters in lower-latitude places.

@我真的很同意这一点。雪黑的冬天对我的心情很糟糕，我在低纬度地区过冬时才开始注意到这一点。

@EgeErdil2 @StefanFSchubert Yeah, that's fair. Though if that's the world we're heading into it seems easier to affect it through either immigration or better global distribution of opportunity than by changing fertility rates.
Could be wrong on that though.

@Egerdil2@StefanFSchubert是的，这很公平。虽然如果这是我们要进入的世界，那么通过移民或更好的全球机会分配似乎比通过改变生育率更容易影响它。
但这可能是错误的。

@EgeErdil2 @StefanFSchubert There are multiple groups of people who care about population for different reasons.
There's definitely race/culture/nationality types who want more of a specific type of person, but I think the people in this thread care more about gains from more humans existing in general.

@Egerdil2@StefanFSchubert有多个群体出于不同的原因关心人口问题。
肯定有种族/文化/国籍类型的人想要更多的特定类型的人，但我认为这条线索中的人更关心的是从普遍存在的更多人类中获得的收益。

@payforexposure Die Daten in den SBTs können auch privat bleiben, man muss nur einen Hash auf die Blockchain stellen.

@payforexposure SBT中的数据也可以保持私有，您只需在区块链上放置哈希。

@fbrusch @TrustlessState @cdixon Sure but you need to have some anchor thing that can be updated. Either it's a blockchain or it's some centralized DB. Blockchains have auditability and UI benefits, though they also have transaction fees.

@fbrusch@TrustlessState@cdixon当然可以，但你需要一些可以更新的锚定内容。要么是区块链，要么是某个集中式数据库。区块链具有可审计性和UI优势，但也有交易费用。

@the_carlosdp @TrustlessState @cdixon @pujaohlhaver Agree. Blockchains as a lazy storage solution is one of those things that offends some people because "grrrr they should really be using IPFS", but in reality it's just a technology option that works well and can be worth the cost (especially post-sharding) for small text records

@carlosdp@TrustlessState@cdixon@pujaohlhaver同意。区块链作为一种懒惰的存储解决方案，是冒犯一些人的事情之一，因为“grrrr他们真的应该使用IPF”，但事实上，这只是一种技术选择，效果很好，可以值得为小文本记录付出成本（尤其是分片后）

@TrustlessState @cdixon Agree there's dystopian potential too, though I feel like the worst of the dystopias already exist in either existing central attestations or existing transferable tokens. I think that's a lot of what @pujaohlhaver was trying to get at in the heaven vs hell section.

@TrustlessState@cdixon也同意存在反乌托邦的潜力，尽管我觉得最糟糕的反乌托邦已经存在于现有的中央认证或现有的可转让代币中。我想这就是《天堂与地狱》一节中@pujaohlhaver想要达到的目标。

@TrustlessState @cdixon The main practical value of adding in a blockchain is being able to prove negatives: that you have no extant loans, that you did not get commit fraud, that your degree did not get revoked...

@TrustlessState@cdixon加入区块链的主要实际价值在于能够证明负面因素：你没有现存的贷款，你没有犯下欺诈罪，你的学位没有被吊销。。。

@sassal0x @hosseeb Crypto culture needs more whitepaper reading *and* more Jantelagen.

@sassal0x@hosseeb加密文化需要更多的白皮书阅读*和*更多的Jantelagen。

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@Nakameowdough Actually I advocate theorycrafting, not testing!

@事实上，我提倡理论起草，而不是测试！

@dankrad's post on stablecoins from last year is also good and recommended!
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