@fergal_whatever @NealBrowning Yes the tests were optimistic in multiple ways, that being one. So the risk is actually likely to be higher in practice. I noted that elsewhere in the thread.
@fergal_，不管怎样，NealBrowning是的，测试在很多方面都是乐观的，这就是其中之一。因此，在实践中，风险实际上可能更高。我注意到线程中的其他地方。
@krupali @AbraarKaran A week ago they were $7 per test from Amazon, Walmart and Kroger (still hard to find during surges). That deal with Biden expired Jan 1.
@krupali@AbraarKaran一周前，来自亚马逊、沃尔玛和克罗格（在激增期间仍然很难找到）的测试价格为7美元。与拜登的协议于1月1日到期。
@AbuAlikai @DrLeanaWen @mehdirhasan False. Nearly one in 100 risk of hospitalization for kids with no health conditions (higher for kids with health conditions) is not a very low risk profile. Source of data is Emily Oster. If you disagree, take it up with her.
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@Loretta_Torrago 84 in 10,000 (already reduced by excluding all the actual kids with comorbodities) is supposed to be a low risk for hospitalization? That's 1 in 119. Any activity or facility where 1 in 119 kids would be injured severely enough to be hospitalized would be shut down immediately.
发表时间：4年前 作者：aeon @AeonCoin@AbuAlikai@DrLeanaWen@mehdirhasan假。几乎每100名无健康状况儿童住院的风险中就有一名（有健康状况的儿童住院的风险更高）不是很低的风险。数据来源是艾米丽·奥斯特。如果你不同意，就和她谈谈。
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@Loretta_Torrago 84/10000（已经通过排除所有患有合并症的实际儿童而减少）被认为是住院的低风险？这是119分之一。每119名儿童中就有1人受伤严重到需要住院治疗的任何活动或设施都将立即关闭。
@marie_Bee25 @danaparish Ventilation of the buildings, not the people.
@marie_Bee25@danaparish建筑的通风，而不是人。
@cbr160 @DrLeanaWen @mehdirhasan This is why
https://twitter.com/brianstelt...
Like other major media companies, CNN is making changes due to the new Covid surge. CNN offices are closing "to all employees who do not have to be in the office to do their jobs," per internal memo tonight. Back to 2020 protocols, essentially.
发表时间：4年前 作者：Brian Stelter @brianstelter@cbr160@DrLeanaWen@mehdirhasan这就是为什么
https://twitter.com/brianstelt...
与其他主要媒体公司一样，CNN也因新冠疫情的激增而做出了改变。根据今晚的内部备忘录，CNN办公室将“对所有不必在办公室工作的员工关闭”。基本上回到2020年协议。
@Disheve49770991 @DrLeanaWen @mehdirhasan Correct
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@typbrunette @DrLeanaWen @mehdirhasan Give her a bit of slack, spinning an incoherent and immoral policy message as part of Biden's Blue Check Army is hard work. https://t.co/ke3KWsfN5G
发表时间：4年前 作者：aeon @AeonCoin@disheve49770991@drleanawen@mehdirhasan correct
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@Typbrenette@DrLeanaWen@mehdirhasan让她放松一点，作为拜登蓝格子军的一部分，编造一个语无伦次、不道德的政策信息是一项艰巨的工作。https://t.co/ke3KWsfN5G
@tallsprucetree @DrLeanaWen @mehdirhasan The Biden response (she works for Biden as part of his Twitter Doctor Troll Army) has long attempted to move the goalposts to an individualized response where governments have no responsibility for public safety. No, that doesn't actually work but it doesn't stop them from trying
@tallsprucetree@DrLeanaWen@mehdirhasan拜登回应（她作为拜登推特医生巨魔军的一部分为拜登工作）长期以来一直试图将球门柱转变为一种个性化回应，政府对公共安全不承担任何责任。不，这实际上不起作用，但这并不能阻止他们尝试
@HFentonMudd And, the original
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@balajis It's not really "unemployment", at least not entirely. It's transformation from a peace-time to a war-time economy. You could view those locked down at home as employed as virus-fighting soldiers, especially to the extent that all governments are allocating funding to pay them.
发表时间：6年前 作者：aeon @AeonCoin@HFentonMudd和原始版本
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@巴拉吉说，这不是真正的“失业”，至少不是完全的。这是从和平时期向战争时期经济的转变。你可以把那些被关在家里的人看作是被雇来对抗病毒的士兵，尤其是在所有政府都拨款支付他们的情况下。
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen The problem is, they're not especially good at preventing symptomatic disease from Omicron. You're using a vaccine for a virus that no longer circulates. It fortunately retains some efficacy, but it's not great, and certainly not up to the original non-goalpost-moved standards.
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen问题是，他们在预防Omicron的症状性疾病方面并不特别擅长。你使用的是一种不再传播的病毒疫苗。幸运的是，它保留了一些效力，但不是很好，当然也没有达到最初的非进球标准。
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen Well, yeah, in the same sense that people claiming that severe disease, hospitalizations, and deaths were the primary purpose.
In both cases, desirable to reduce, but not what they were tested to do nor authorized on the basis of doing.
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen嗯，是的，在同样的意义上，人们声称严重疾病、住院和死亡是主要目的。
在这两种情况下，他们都希望减少，但不是减少他们在测试或授权的基础上所做的事情。
@BigdaddySane420 @CulturaDeMessi @BerkeleyJr @aetiology Same with the virus! Have to make decisions with imperfect information. Would be nice otherwise, but alas, reality doesn't work that way!
@Bigdadysane420@CulturaDeMessi@BerkeleyJr@病因与病毒相同！必须在信息不完善的情况下做出决策。否则会很好，但唉，现实不是这样的！
@BigdaddySane420 @CulturaDeMessi @BerkeleyJr @aetiology Again, both short and long term risks exist from infection without (or with less) vaccine-induced immunity, and these must be weighted against vaccine risks. Many virus risks are known, some may not be.
@BigdaddySane420@CulturaDeMessi@BerkeleyJr@病原学同样，没有（或更少）疫苗诱导免疫的感染存在短期和长期风险，这些风险必须与疫苗风险相权衡。许多病毒风险是已知的，有些可能不是。
@BigdaddySane420 @CulturaDeMessi @BerkeleyJr @aetiology In a way, yes. Global public, not American public. Doesn't change the fact that evidence is very much in favor of balance of benefits being much greater than risks. MANY independent reviews all over the world have concluded this.
@在某种程度上，Bigdadysane420@CulturaDeMessi@Berkeley Jr@病因学，是的。全球公众，而不是美国公众。这并没有改变这样一个事实，即证据非常有利于利益平衡，而不是风险平衡。世界各地的许多独立评论都得出了这一结论。
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen Early in vaccine rollout there were some warnings that severe cases/deaths might NOT be reduced much, if vaccines were more effective in stopping milder cases in healthier people. Fortunately turned out not to be true, but trials didn't rule it out.
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen在疫苗推出初期，有一些警告称，如果疫苗能更有效地阻止健康人群中较轻的病例，严重病例/死亡可能不会减少多少。幸运的是，事实证明并非如此，但试验并没有排除这种可能性。
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen Reducing death wasn't measured at all. Only a handful of people ever died during a trial, in some it was literally zero (including placebo), way below significant. It's just not feasible. 20k placebo->100 or so get covid at all, IFR < 1% usually, expected number of deaths = 0.
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen减少死亡根本没有被衡量。在一次试验中，只有少数人死亡，在一些试验中，死亡人数几乎为零（包括安慰剂），远远低于显著水平。这是不可行的。20k安慰剂->；100个左右的人感染了新冠病毒，如果r<；通常为1%，预期死亡人数=0。
@HFentonMudd Yep
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@jfeldman_epi People being paid to stay home shouldn't even be counted as unemployed. They're being paid to do a job (stop transmission).
发表时间：5年前 作者：aeon @AeonCoin@是的
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@jfeldman_epi支付工资待在家里的人甚至不应被视为失业者。他们被雇来做一项工作（停止传输）。
@SherwoodAnne @NealBrowning It was always an optimistic assumption in that study, to say the least!
@SherwoodAnne@NealBrowning至少可以说，在这项研究中，这一直是一个乐观的假设！
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen Severe was tracked and reported but there was no expectation to show efficacy nor was it meaningfully shown (far too few severe cases in trials).
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen严重病例得到了跟踪和报告，但没有期望显示疗效，也没有得到有意义的显示（试验中严重病例太少）。
@BenDelecto @angie_rasmussen The goal was just to get a vaccine that "worked" ASAP. Symptomatic disease was the easiest to measure. You reduce that and you have a vaccine that works. Then hopefully it does more (turns out it did).
@BenDelecto@angie_rasmussen的目标只是尽快获得一种“有效”的疫苗。症状性疾病是最容易测量的。你减少了这一点，你就有了一种有效的疫苗。然后希望它能做得更多（事实证明它做到了）。
@SteveAHorn @DrLeanaWen @ProfEmilyOster @biannagolodryga Her university is operating remote.
@SteveAHorn@DrLeanaWen@ProfEmilyOster@bianagolodryga她的大学正在远程运行。