@Blikemike2 @AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @stephendpalley @Tranglo I'm no lawyer but IIRC the burden of proof for both parties in a civil case is equal, in that allegations are "more likely to be true than not true."
This is not a "reasonable doubt" scenario.

@Blikemike2@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@stephendpalley@Tranglo我不是律师，但IIRC民事案件双方的举证责任是平等的，因为指控“更可能是真实的，而不是不真实的”
这不是“合理怀疑”的情况。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Ripple has no affirmative defense.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo Ripple没有正面辩护。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo It’s a civil case. Ripple is not innocent until proved guilty.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo这是一个民事案件。Ripple在被证明有罪之前不是无辜的。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo The conspiracy theory involves trying to get emails which suggest the SEC is showing favoritism to other projects and maliciously prosecuting Ripple.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo阴谋论涉及试图获取暗示SEC偏袒其他项目并恶意起诉Ripple的电子邮件。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Omg lol
“Not a commodity” and “is a security” is literally the same thing.
It’s a binary option.
Logic fail.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo Omg lol
“不是商品”和“是证券”是一回事。
这是一个二进制选项。
逻辑失败。

People who enjoy black licorice are irredeemable psychopaths.

喜欢吃黑甘草的人是不可救药的精神病患者。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo "Not a commodity" is, in fact, a legal argument. It may be refuted by providing sufficient evidence something *is* a commodity. Notice Ripple has not taken that defense because they cannot.
Please don't pretend you know what you're talking about.
You don't.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo“不是商品”实际上是一个法律论点。如果能提供足够的证据证明某物是一种商品，就可以驳斥它。请注意Ripple没有采取这种防御措施，因为他们不能。
请不要假装你知道你在说什么。
你没有。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo "Not a commodity" is, in fact, a legal argument. It may be refuted by providing sufficient evidence something *is* a security. Notice Ripple has not taken that defense.
Please don't pretend you know what you're talking about.
You don't.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo“不是商品”实际上是一个法律论点。可以通过提供足够的证据来驳斥某事物是安全的。请注意Ripple并没有进行这种辩护。
请不要假装你知道你在说什么。
你没有。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo A commodity and a security may both be used as currency. The CFTC does not decide what is or is not a currency. The OCC does.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo商品和证券都可以用作货币。CFTC不决定什么是货币，什么不是货币。货币监理署负责。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Assets are commodities or securities. XRP is not a commodity, therefore it is a security. As it was issued by Ripple, they are a fiduciary.
You don’t actually understand what the SEC is arguing.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo资产是商品或证券。XRP不是商品，因此它是安全的。正如Ripple发行的，他们是受托人。
你根本不明白SEC在争论什么。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Ripple isn't arguing anything.
Also, one does not look for precedent which detracts from an argument. One looks for precedent which supports an argument.
I have no idea what Ripple is even arguing except for an unfounded conspiracy theory.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo Ripple没有任何争论。
此外，我们也不会寻找有损于论点的先例。人们寻找支持论点的先例。
除了一个毫无根据的阴谋论，我甚至不知道Ripple在争论什么。

@Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @AriesLevy @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo You have limited life experience.

@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@AriesLevy@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo你的生活经验有限。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo You assume that I could know something about the XRP market that the SEC does not?
I certainly don't. If I can figure it out, they can too.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo你认为我可以了解一些SEC不知道的XRP市场信息吗？
我当然不知道。如果我能弄明白，他们也能。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Believe me, the SEC knows.
I didn't have to tell them. Other people did.
This is still discovery and pre-trial.
We haven't even gotten to arguments yet.

@证券交易委员会知道，AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo相信我。
我没必要告诉他们。其他人做到了。
这仍然是发现和预审。
我们甚至还没开始争论。

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Does Ripple constantly employ paperwork cutout companies and fund them to build on XRP to show some sort of growth?
Yes.
There's only one argument being made.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo Ripple是否经常雇佣文书剪贴公司，并为它们提供资金，以XRP为基础，展示某种增长？
对
只有一个论点。

@Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @AriesLevy @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo As no organic market force may be identified for manipulating the XRP price to track BTC, and that Ripple is the sole source of XRP, and that the amount of XRP required is substantial which eliminates almost all other private holders, how does Ripple not control price?

@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@AriesLevy@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo由于操纵XRP价格以追踪BTC可能没有确定的有机市场力量，Ripple是XRP的唯一来源，而且所需XRP的数量巨大，几乎排除了所有其他私人持有人，Ripple如何不控制价格？

@AriesLevy @Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo It does not matter what paperwork shenanigans one employs to try to obfuscate liability.
People have tried that before in other arenas.
Give that a rest.

@AriesLevy@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@Blikemike2@stephendpally@Tranglo无论你用什么样的文书手段试图混淆责任。
人们以前在其他领域也尝试过。
休息一下。

@Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @AriesLevy @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo Every single XRP token that has ever reached market came from Ripple, Inc.
Every. Single. One.

@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@AriesLevy@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo曾经进入市场的每一个XRP代币都来自Ripple，Inc。
每一个仅有一个的一

@Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @AriesLevy @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo And you prove my point.
Bonus Quiz: given the XRP price tracks the price of BTC for no apparent reason, and given the daily volume, how much XRP is required to create that price corellation?

@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@AriesLevy@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo，你证明了我的观点。
有奖问答：鉴于XRP价格无明显原因地跟踪BTC的价格，并且鉴于每天的交易量，需要多少XRP才能创建该价格联动？

@Antimon_E @Cryptokodo @AriesLevy @Blikemike2 @stephendpalley @Tranglo No, you don't know how markets work.

@Antimon_E@Cryptokodo@AriesLevy@Blikemike2@stephendpalley@Tranglo不，你不知道市场是如何运作的。